Shell Site Survey Results

The BRVA managed an online survey to collect input from community members regarding the proposed development of the former Shell Gas Station at 6349 College Avenue and the apartments nearby. The survey closed Wednesday, June 5 at midnight. Please find the results of the survey here*. The data gathered from the survey and the public meeting will be used by the Board of Directors and the Land Use and Development Committee in further discussions with the developer and City of Indianapolis.

*In an effort to make the survey accessible to as many community members as possible, the survey was not limited by IP address. This allowed for all members of a household to complete the survey, as opposed to limiting the survery response to one per household. However, what that then allowed was respondents to complete the survey more than once. Approximately 10-12% (varies by question) of the total number of responses, were submitted by people who completed the survey more than once. However, because the intention of the survey was to collect feedback, the BRVA feels the top concerns, likes and dislikes are still accurately captured by the survey.

We’ve included a table below of the raw data for Question #10 and the data after removing all individuals that completed the survey more than once. You will find that the results are very similar.

10. Overall, would you say you are in favor of or do you oppose the development as it is CURRENTLY proposed?

Raw Data, includes duplicate respondents (1,925 responses)
Opposed Leaning No Neutral Leaning Yes In Favor
% of total respondents 41.70% 11.70% 4.40% 12.80% 29.40%
# of   respondents 802 226 85 247 565
Data after removing duplicate respondents (1,782 responses)
% of total respondents 40.60% 12% 4.50% 12.70% 30.10%
# of   respondents 724 213 81 227 537


15 thoughts on “Shell Site Survey Results

  1. Dinah DUvall

    I’d like to see the responses with “other” zip codes excluded. My guess is that those who live in and around BRV are more opposed to the proposed construction for both its height and big box store occupancy, as well as being more concerned for traffic congestion and use of TIF funds.

  2. Josh

    It is too bad people are too resistant to progress and change in this area. I love this design and think it will only bolster our community, improve current developed land property values and boost local businesses with increased population density and traffic.

  3. jan

    add me to the opposed if you need more signatures. It does not fit in with BRVillage atmosphere, and the monstrosity on the corner (parking garage) is bad enough.

  4. Brent Robertson

    I hope this particular proposal fizzles out. Between the new parking structure and the building going up at BR ave and Westfield, I think the area needs time to breathe, digest and assess the area post the completion of these two very new and very different buildings. I do not want Broadripple to become another west 86th st or Clearwater development. This is a village and I think most of us that live in and around BR like it that way.

  5. Bruce Buchanan

    This building fits well within the locally-developed Envision Broad Ripple master plan which was years in the making. I commend the developers for their thoughtful approach. We need more residential and NON-BAR retail in our area desperately!

  6. Nancy

    Developers said they won’t go forward without TIF $. This is about $, not the village of Broadripple.

    TIF $ are best used to regenerate growth in economically challenged neighborhoods. BR is not that.

    They won’t spend a dollar more than necesssary, but cost estimates soared from $17 to $25 million.

    They want a grocer with a concept new to the area. Whole Foods came to the developer. They are not new to the area, nor is organic foods. They are 2 miles away in Nora and this store would put the Good Earth, an iconic BR second generation organic food store, out of business.

    They want a retailer with a long term community commitment – Kroger has served BR for decades, but can’t expand in its current location.

    Whole Foods and their developer paid attorneys to get 86th & Haverstick rezoned for a large retail store against the Metropolitan Development Comprehensive Plan’s residential only designation (and won in spite of strong neighborhood opposition and NCC, appeal and lawsuit).

    After delays, the store bought Wild Oats at Nora Plaza. 86th & Haverstick remains a demolished, deserted, blighted area at the entrance of the Driftwood Hills neighborhood.

    Whole Foods fought workers wanting a union. Kroger workers have union representation.

    BR is so congested with car and bike traffic, many nearby residents avoid it, doing business elsewhere, which makes this development even more counterproductive.

  7. rita hupp

    I think the survey results would have been more valid if responders had to have provided their addresses as well as their zip codes.

    My basic question is this: how well does the proposed apartment/store complex align with the Envision Broad Ripple objectives? If it doesn’t, then I think it behooves the BRVA to publicly oppose the proposed building code variance, especially in view of the survey results.

    Either the BRVA has teeth, or it doesn’t.

  8. Kent S

    I am in favor of the new development in Broad Ripple. It fits well with the Village long term plan. The design of the building itself has not yet begun until the funding has been approved….the drawings so far are just to show the scale. It will be nice to showcase the canal and have some new apartments similar to those recently built downtown and in Fountain Square. The current Shell station has been an eyesore for years and we need to take advantage of a developer who wants to improve the area.

  9. Ei

    Change and growth ARE necessary, but is this really the “look” for Broadripple? Maybe we need to take a good look at where we would like to be, and what we would like to look like, in 10 years. Big, brick buildings everywhere, or small town, quaint, unique store fronts with apartments above.

  10. Aaron Bledsoe

    I dont think its right to let a huge corporation dominate the broad ripple sky line when the neighborhood was built on the backs of small local businesses in historical buildings. If it wasnt for the success of small local businesses broad ripple would be no different than any other north side neighborhood, now whole foods wants to change the trend that made them interested in the first place. Plus the parking garage is terrible dont continue this trend of over building, it isnt progress it’s regression. Keep Broad Ripple Local

  11. Mary Anna Hunt

    It’s terrible! It will change the only thing BR has going for it….the concept of a quiet, quaint village. The strip of bars changed the main street but we still had the rest of the neighborhood…I’m afraid that too is doomed. There are many communities in Indianapolis, Broad Ripple is unique but will not be if this goes forward…in a few years, it will be just another congested area. By the way, doesn’t anyone notice we have a Whole Foods just 20 blocks north and Fresh Market just 10 blocks south?

  12. Jason

    Wow, to think the parking garage is a negative, especially compared to the rotting vacant gas station/brown field, is strange to me. It’s visually appealing, and has fostered businesses and employment. I also don’t understand the hang-up of height restrictions. It adds density, and visual interest. It’s also better and more “progressive” to build up rather than out.
    And why are we complaining about a potential Whole Foods when it offers some large employment numbers, quality clientele, and good wages, yet chains like Applebee’s, Einstein Bagels, Noodles and Company, and McDonalds have all been allowed?

  13. Phil

    Our Local community is better off with this project.

    I want to see the project move forward. I think it would be good for broad ripple, good for the people of Indianapolis, and good for the aesthetics of our great neighborhood.

    I Support Local
    The proposal was presented by the following:
    * Browning Investments – since 1977, Indianapolis
    * Faegre Baker Daniels – since 1863, Indianapolis
    * Eclipse Real Estate – since 2004, Indianapolis

    As Indianapolis is gaining more attention nationally as a good place for commercial development, I would love to see the returns from this investment poured right back into our community.

    They pre-announced a main tenant.
    * It usually doesn’t happen where we know the tenant at this point of the project. I suspect they viewed it as a benefit to the neighborhood.

    Proposed tenant – Whole Foods
    Whole Foods – Since 1978, Austin TX
    $12 Billion Revenue
    Indiana (3 stores) Worldwide (349 stores)
    Hardly a Big Box Store –

    Just as I support local, Whole Food supports local
    * Each store gives 5+% of net profit to local community. (Push Method – Employees seek the organizations they care about.)
    * Provide low interest loans to local food providers who would otherwise be cut from a major grocery chain like Kroger.
    * Ranked for 16 consecutive years as one of the “100 Best Companies to Work For” in America by Fortune magazine.
    Known for paying higher wages than industry average (more of our money staying local)

    Compared to Kroger
    Kroger – Since 1883, Cincinatti, OH
    $95 Billion Revenue
    Indiana (143) Worldwide (2424)
    *On a nice parcel of land, completly underutilized. They don’t appear to notice that their parking lot is very tired looking. I guess the $95 Billion is spent elsewhere.
    *Community reward program – designed simliar to a fund raising program for local organizations. (Pull method – the community must ask)

    Loudest Opponent (In my Opinion) – Good Earth
    Good Earth – Since 1971, Broad Ripple, IN
    Considers Whole Food Competition-
    Customer Service – I have been in this store about 6 times. I browsed the store with the goal knowing what I could get there to support a local business. I am sure I looked like I was new to the store, each time I came in. Not once did an employee greet me, let alone assist me. I’ll support local to a point, but compared to the Whole Foods in Nora, this is a no brainer.
    Product Selection – Yes, there is overlap with Whole Foods, but there is also a ton of differentiated products. With Marsh, Fresh Market, and Kroger already in the area why do they pick out Whole Foods as not worthy enough to be given the opportunity to enter the market and up everyone’s game.
    Local – Good Earth is based in Broad Ripple. The project deverlopers are based in Indianapolis. Whole foods invests locally, Good Earth reminds people they are local. Good Earth has been around since 1971, uh so? Smile at me and treat me well and maybe I’d care.

    I personally feel that the proposal does more for our community than Good Earth’s rhetoric.

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